John Clarke talks with Emily Barker, founder of Emily Jane Guidance, about the narcissistic abuse cycle, trauma bonding, and why leaving isn't as simple as it looks—through both a clinical and IFS lens.

In this deeply moving episode of Going Inside, John sits down with somatic coach Marina Shriner for a raw and resonant exploration of how trauma hides in the body—and how it silently shapes our relationships, self-worth, and emotional patterns.

From immigration and war to abusive relationships and business breakdowns, Marina shares her personal healing journey and why talk therapy wasn’t enough. She reveals the powerful truth about what happens when we stop trying to think our way out of trauma—and start feeling our way through it.